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Postby peter meier » Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:13 am

Has no one heard of speed reading - don't people skim read?

Don't you have the choice to read a post or ignore it?

If you look at who regularly posts LOOOONNNGG posts don't you begin to get a feel for what that person is usually on about? Don’t you have the option of deciding well this person is always carrying on about this and that – I’m not going to bother reading their post – or this same person usually has a considered opinion – I like to read their posts - don't you have the choice not to read the post of certain members?

Or are we all diletants who must read every single word of every post?

Luke Richards wrote:It seems to me that much of the above is concerned with how to present members who want to make the least amount of effort here with the most amount of information that can be offered by those who do make an effort (and are 'value' labelled). No offence, but this seems like completely the wrong way to look at it -unless I have the wrong idea about what this discussion forum is for.


I would have to agree with the above – sorry luke for that aggressive quote – I should have used “ luke said ….� (obviously I thinks the quoting system should stay)

I think the idea of CPE has merit but rating the quality may be an issue.

As to rating posts – I see certain merit eg if I was consistently given low scores I would understand that my opinions are not considered worthy by my peers and would stop inflicting them on the community. (in essence the number of views serves a very similar function and is interesting to look at)

What I seem to be noticing however is that the community appears to have reached that critical mass where bureaucracy or at least the perceived need for it starts to creep in. Rather than letting the community develop and self monitor within simple boundaries, a perceived need for controls begins to emerge whereby moderator actions become ever increasing, posting limits begin to creep in, private rulings start to emerge.

It is all well and good to set up rules but who is going to monitor them and what exactly are you going to do in an open and anonymous forum? Still – I’m looking forward to my tongue lashing for going over 250 words and quoting another member – actually sounds quite exciting – perhaps we can start an altogether separate sections where this sort of thing can go on – oopps am I in the wrong forum again?

Communities grow from diversity – (backgrounds, experience, opinions) – surely there is room for all sorts and discerning adults can exercise their freedom of choice to engage at whatever level. (469 words – including the quote - sorry)
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Postby Katherine Berry » Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:33 am

heya Peter

Thanks for your post... though I need to note that this is all just a consultation process. I am always keen to hear what people think of this whole set up... because quite frankly I thinks it's great.

So discussing the finer details (like word limit, quoting etc) is just a way of trying to make it... um... greater!

In truth, I am starting to realise it is really difficult to make everyone happy. So the best we can do, is just our best.

Because you, and others are fond of the quoting, I am going to use it here:
Rather than letting the community develop and self monitor within simple boundaries, a perceived need for controls begins to emerge whereby moderator actions become ever increasing, posting limits begin to creep in, private rulings start to emerge.


I think you're right. But to me it seems natural that as a population increases, so does the need to set the boundaries. A small group requires less coordination than a large one, right?

I think our boundaries ARE simple. They are: be polite and professional and perhaps don't blab on too much...

And you're also right about the moderator actions becoming increasing as we have just received our first threatened law suit. (Oh, I said that like I expect more... which I don't.). This I realise was avoidable had we been more careful about our moderation.

To be honest, moderating takes up alot of time and energy (don't forget no one is getting paid for this) so in fact I am keen to do as you said, promote self monitoring, by asking people to consider the whole community when they post...

I see these forums as a garden. It just needs a little regular maintenance and then everything will grow...

It's great we're all in agreement about the CPD points idea. Will start moving ahead on that one...

Cheers
KB
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Postby Luke Rickards » Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:00 pm

we have just received our first threatened law suit.
Are you serious?
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Postby Acunet » Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:42 pm

This thread has been split to start a new thread here:

Forum participation = CPE / PDA & CPD points?!

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Postby Luke Rickards » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:35 pm

It's good to see some new keyboards (faces) contributing here recently. Perhaps we need to have some more arguments about what is and isn't required for that. :wink:
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