Herbal clinic treatments in CA setting

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Herbal clinic treatments in CA setting

Postby normansavigar » Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:25 pm

Is anybody running a Chinese herbal clinic alongside a Community Acupuncture setting?

I am starting the herb course at CICM later this year and want to find a way to integrate herbal treatments alongside my CA clinic.

I have heard that Shang Han Lun diagnosis and treatments can be used in this way, but I know no more at the moment.
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Re: Herbal clinic treatments in CA setting

Postby Feng » Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:18 am

Meridian herb is the herb which can lead the herb formula's energy go into the problem meridian or problem “Zang Fu" and help the treatment. For example: the Tai Yang meridian herb is “Qiang Huo”, Yang Ming meridian herb is “Bai Zhi”, Shao Yang meridian herb is “Chai Hu”, Jue Yin meridian herb is “Wu Zhu Yu”, Tai Yin meridian herb is “Huo Xiang”, Shao Yin meridian herb is “Xi Xin”. For internal organs meridian herb, for example: Heart meridian herb is “Dan Shen”, Liver meridian herb is “Bai Shao”, Spleen meridian herb is “Bai Zhu”, Lung meridian herb is “Jie Geng”, Kidney meridian herb is “Du Huo”. Shang Han Run diagnosis is basic on 6 meridians wind cold diagnosis, so if you find the main problem of the meridian, then you can lock the main herb of the formula, add the other side help herbs will figure out the composition of the formula, this is the right way to make a more correct formula.
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Re: Herbal clinic treatments in CA setting

Postby normansavigar » Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:47 am

Feng wrote:Meridian herb is the herb which can lead the herb formula's energy go into the problem meridian or problem “Zang Fu" and help the treatment. For example: the Tai Yang meridian herb is “Qiang Huo”, Yang Ming meridian herb is “Bai Zhi”, Shao Yang meridian herb is “Chai Hu”, Jue Yin meridian herb is “Wu Zhu Yu”, Tai Yin meridian herb is “Huo Xiang”, Shao Yin meridian herb is “Xi Xin”. For internal organs meridian herb, for example: Heart meridian herb is “Dan Shen”, Liver meridian herb is “Bai Shao”, Spleen meridian herb is “Bai Zhu”, Lung meridian herb is “Jie Geng”, Kidney meridian herb is “Du Huo”. Shang Han Run diagnosis is basic on 6 meridians wind cold diagnosis, so if you find the main problem of the meridian, then you can lock the main herb of the formula, add the other side help herbs will figure out the composition of the formula, this is the right way to make a more correct formula.


Hi Feng

Thanks for your response. Not being up to speed on the herbs, this will take me some time to understand and digest.

Am I right in assuming you identify the 'sick' meridian with this technique, as you would do with a Balance Method diagnosis, and then develop your herbal prescription accordingly?

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Re: Herbal clinic treatments in CA setting

Postby Feng » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:20 pm

In Shan Han Run wind cold 6 meridians diaganosis, the wind cold energy will attack body's 6 merdians step by step, that is Tai Yang > Yang Ming > Shao Yang > Tai Yin > Shao Yn > Yue Yin, for different stage of wind cold attack on the meridians, use different meridian herb to stop the sick energy going on. In TCM herb formula treatment, there are mainly 8 ways for treatment: sweating, vomit, bowelmovement, balance, warm up, cool down, sedate and tonify. We can use any way of them for treatment, but first we should figure out which meridian or internal organ the sick energy in now, then we will decide how to treat the problem.
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Re: Herbal clinic treatments in CA setting

Postby yinyangthang » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:19 am

Hi Norman,

If you'd like to learn Shang Han Lun/Jin Gui style herbalism in a style that would compliment a community clinic, I'd suggest seeking out Arnaud Versluys. His style is very pulse and abdomen diagnosis specific, where findings very clearly point to which formula is to be used. It leads to very direct targeted questioning as you are already in the ballpark after palpation.

I notice that you're in the UK. Arnaud's #2 is Laurie Ayers, who is somewhere in the UK. Maybe search him out and have a talk with him. He is an amazing practitioner in this style.

Hope that helps

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Re: Herbal clinic treatments in CA setting

Postby normansavigar » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:48 pm

Hi Pete

Thanks for that insight.

I have been listening to interviews on the Deepest Health podcast with Arnaud Versluys and Laurie Ayres, and it transpires that Laurie runs the London Branch of the Institute of Classics in East Asian Medicine. The London ICEAM now operates from my alma mater, the College of Integrated Chinese Medicine in Reading, UK.

I received the syllabus for the new CICM herb course today, which is scheduled to start in March next year. I noted that the emphasis is Shang Han Lun formulas. I believe that the CICM herb course co-ordinator, Michael Pringle, is also involved with ICEAM.

So it feels like the pieces are falling into place for me to study a style of herbal medicine that may fit alongside my multibed clinic operation.

regards
Norman
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