Golden Staph in 9yr old

[ivanmcwilliams]

Has anyone know of a herbal formula to help a 9yr old girl who has golden staph since birth. currently on steroids but has breakouts when gets a scratch or the temperature is in the high 20s and above

[Clare Pyers]

Maybe you could give us some more signs and symptoms. When she has a "breakout" what is the main complaint at that time?
Best bet is to look at some heat clearing formulas - but need to know more to be sure she gets the best formula.

[dragonmonk]

My herbal knowledge is virtually null and void, but some questions that I would be asking are about clothes and bedding.

As I understand it, it is quite important to wash clothes and bedding thoroughly with some form of antibacterial wash (for example, tea tree oil with solubiliser used in the washing machine). This should be done on a regular basis (few times a week) to make sure that the Staph is kept to a minimum.

Similar natural anibacterial body washes should be used.

[Heather Bruce]

Hi - unfortunately can't tell you about herbs as I have sorted this problem out with two of my kids without them. I do know a lot about wellness though - and we can't take the biomedical as being the only framework /benchmark - or even TCM - and try to make a treatment fit . . .. I would be thinking a lot more broader than Chinese herbs - to actually strengthening constitution when not in acute phase, and having a really elderly (hopefully experienced in pre anti biotic times) practitioner of ANYTHING but biomedicine . . ..
Why has it happened - what else is waiting to fall on this kid? How can she be rescued as this is a great heat pathogen stored in the blood? Really need a very old naturopath, who like me, but more ancient and with more decades of experience, was used to fixing things that doctors had NOTHING in their bag of tricks for.

First GS case I saw was my massively brain injured (and at the time - 5 yo ) nearly dead daughter (result of MMR vaccine weakening her/giving some viral ???) and then Strep throat to heart disease then golden staph as a goodbye present from being in hospital) - so there WAS no treatment for her - she actually got better as everything else was cleared by the (Warning this is 'out there' .. .) healing of the Dala Lama's picture being held over her whilst a very earnest monk chanted and held her for aout an hour till she came back again . . . so these things do happen. She had all her skin layers coming off at once from her hands and soles of feet - and the digits were an orangey/red colour . . . . most unattractive and very scarey . . ..

Years later when I saw the same peripheral issues I found no help with antibiotics - and used hydrogen peroxide. We could ask - what did people use prior to antibiotics ?? (We do chemistry for a reason - we sometimes have reason to dredge it up and think with it . . .)so there is iodine, colloiodal silver and hydrogen peroxide. Old fashioned, but great oxidisers and this is a big worry to bugs as nothing can accomodate to them .. .

My son Ryan at 2 was 'cured' - when all the zinc, Vit C, homeopathics PLUS antibiotics didn't work their magic - with 6 drops of the right concentration - there is the issue - of H2O2 in a glass of water - left to stand for 12 hours then that one sipped over the next 12 hours whilst the next one was 'proving', or whatever it was doing.

i was very motivated to sort this out - and after 2 weeks I stopped the dosing - and he was all better well before this . . . ALSO - I just as well may as well stay 'out there' . . .radionics works IF you can find someone old and quirky enough to be using homeopathics this way.

Also - orgone accumulator- I made one up when my then toddler (now 32 yo) needed a miracle to stop them yanking out his tonsils and adnenoids - so I made one up and it FIXED him - so why not go back to ENERGY MEDICINE - which is what acupuncture is essentually - if we could get away from the Chinese and dogma - and extend our thinking to be innovative . . . start thinkng in curvey lines. . .. as when kids and especially ours are involved, often that is when our choice of profession becomes very handy.

I did nothing different about all the 'germs' - we have this GS about all the time - it is a matter of the fertile ground - or not - if we stopped the biomedical fear based focus as part of our acupuncture training and went for the natural /traditional medicine bent - support normal to support itself - (another likelihood of me stirring up trouble) then we would understand the process of 'disease' and not fear it. I did absolutely nothing about sterilisation for the rest of us or our manchester/ bedding - she got GS from the hospital - he got it from his family day care mum minding wild birds and scratching everyone - and none of my other kids or we adults surrcombed - when we are well we do not get sick . . . . a timely reminder with all this swine flu worry about. Bacteria are not the problem - like cancer - our non response is . . (wonder why we are vaccinating kids prior to their having any immune system to actually stimulate into working - might this be the underlying probelm?

Sincerely hope some of this is helpful . . .

[yinyangthang]

Hi Ivan,

I agree with both Clare (more info needed) and Heather (treat underlying def inbetween attacks), but since this thread is about herbs for GS, I'd suggest looking at Wen Bing (Warm Disease) texts (I like Guohui Liu's book for its clinical usefulness) and Dermatology texts. Lots more info is needed to point you in any more specific direction.

During acute attacks, external washes (with da huang, huang qin, huang lian, pu gong ying etc) are useful for local infection. systemic infection will need internal herbs (wu wei xiao du yin) at acute stage but this can only be used for short period of time. The chronic nature of her illness points to underlying deficiency so it is important not to overuse cold bitter heatclearing herbs/formula without supporting her upright qi.

The recurrent latent nature of her presentation may also suggest using formula such as xiao chai hu tang or hao qin qing dan tang in between attacks. but, more info needed to confirm this...............